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	<title>Comments on: TeachScheme Workshop at Brown University</title>
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		<title>By: Hélène Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hélène Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, yes.  As Joel Spolsky says, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s harder to read code than to write it.&lt;/a&gt;&quot;

But here&#039;s the thing, though.  I don&#039;t usually feel this way about &lt;em&gt;my own&lt;/em&gt; procedural code!  The idea density in functional programming makes it hard for me to unpack even things I&#039;ve just written.  Again, it may just be that it&#039;s still a bit of a foreign language to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, yes.  As Joel Spolsky says, &#8220;<a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html" rel="nofollow">It’s harder to read code than to write it.</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the thing, though.  I don&#8217;t usually feel this way about <em>my own</em> procedural code!  The idea density in functional programming makes it hard for me to unpack even things I&#8217;ve just written.  Again, it may just be that it&#8217;s still a bit of a foreign language to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This may be a failure on my part, but I’ve found it’s almost easier for me to re-write simple functions than to reason through reading them!&quot;

That&#039;s true for most programmers. Most of us would rather tear it all down and build something new than work on something someone else built, because it&#039;s easier, and you don&#039;t have to think as hard. That&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This may be a failure on my part, but I’ve found it’s almost easier for me to re-write simple functions than to reason through reading them!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true for most programmers. Most of us would rather tear it all down and build something new than work on something someone else built, because it&#8217;s easier, and you don&#8217;t have to think as hard. That&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: TeachScheme teaches principles. What do the rest of us teach? &#124; Hélène Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeachScheme teaches principles. What do the rest of us teach? &#124; Hélène Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it taught at hundreds of high schools and colleges. My initial thoughts on the workshop can be read here; I&#8217;ve now been reflecting on the material for a few weeks and offer some higher level [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it taught at hundreds of high schools and colleges. My initial thoughts on the workshop can be read here; I&#8217;ve now been reflecting on the material for a few weeks and offer some higher level [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Motorcycle Repair and the Art of Overcoming Gender Roles &#124; Hélène Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Motorcycle Repair and the Art of Overcoming Gender Roles &#124; Hélène Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 04:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do good design work &#8212; typically my girls.  This may be where some of what I learned at the TeachScheme workshop will really come in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do good design work &#8212; typically my girls.  This may be where some of what I learned at the TeachScheme workshop will really come in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hélène Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hélène Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite measure of language popularity is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.langpop.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.langpop.com/&lt;/a&gt;.  Of course it&#039;s not perfect, but I think it gives a pretty good picture.  Look at where the functional languages are.

If most programmers working these days were trained procedurally, chances are that&#039;s what they&#039;ll use, no matter the appropriateness.  But what happens when we want to start making things parallel?  Stateless (an Android app can be killed and restarted at any point)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite measure of language popularity is <a href="http://www.langpop.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.langpop.com/</a>.  Of course it&#8217;s not perfect, but I think it gives a pretty good picture.  Look at where the functional languages are.</p>
<p>If most programmers working these days were trained procedurally, chances are that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ll use, no matter the appropriateness.  But what happens when we want to start making things parallel?  Stateless (an Android app can be killed and restarted at any point)?</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Vaynshtok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton Vaynshtok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Functional programming implies certain idioms and ways of thinking about problems.  They’re much less typical than procedural idioms.&quot;

Do you have any sources for this? Intuitively I feel that it&#039;s true, but I don&#039;t know if that is only because I (like most programmers of my generation, I think) learned the procedural approach first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Functional programming implies certain idioms and ways of thinking about problems.  They’re much less typical than procedural idioms.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you have any sources for this? Intuitively I feel that it&#8217;s true, but I don&#8217;t know if that is only because I (like most programmers of my generation, I think) learned the procedural approach first.</p>
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